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Crests are randomly found from a level 5-10 wilderness after a victorious attack. They can also be purchased from the shop and be obtained from chests.

A certain combination of crests reward you with the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth city deeds. The Seals were introduced to the game starting with the sixth city deed.

Crests can also be used to increase a knights loyalty

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Types of Crest/SealEdit

  1. ==Only certain types of crests are dropped in each level wild:==
Crest Name Properties Level of Wilderness
Bors.jpg Sir Bor's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 5% 5-7
Ectors.jpg Sir Ector's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 10% 5-7
Kays.jpg Sir Kay's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 15% 5-8
Bediveres.jpg Sir Bedivere's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 20% 6-8
Gawains.jpg Sir Gawain's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 25% 6-8
Percivals.jpg Sir Percival's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 30% 7-9
Galahad.jpg Sir Galahad's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 40% 7-9
Lancelot.jpg Sir Lancelot's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 50% 7-9
Arthur.jpg King Arthur's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 60% 8+
Morgana.png Morgana's Seal N/A 8+
1111.jpg Mordred's Seal N/A

8+

Stag.jpg Stag King's Seal N/A 8+
1113.jpg.png Pendragon Seal N/A 8+
Pen.png Lady Of The Lake´s Seal N/A 8+
Lad.png Merlin´s Seal N/A 1+
Aetherseal.jpg Aetherseal N/A

Ysbadden Seal.jpg

Ysbadden Seal N/A

Sidhe Seal.jpg

Sidhe Seal N/A 2+ DF

Where to find themEdit

Crests are available by a victorious attack on an unowned level 5 Wilderness and above. See Tournament of Crests strategy section for advice on collecting crests from wilds. It is not necessary to keep control of the wilderness, that is to conquer it and keep it as a wild controlled by your city's castle. When you win a crest, it will be listed n the battle report along with the other "loot". Or, you can check under my items to see how many crests you currently have. The table in the section above includes a column for which level wildernesses each can be found.

These are the chances of drop calculated on the Crest_Drop_Research page, per attack, as per 25/09/2010

The Easy Way:Edit

Crests are randomly placed throughout wilds every hour. If you were to build lists of certain lvl wilds you want to hit, you could hit them every hour instead of looking through other wilds. This way, it's easier and quicker to find the crests you need.

Also if you stay on your 'Map' screen and hit 5 of the same type and lvl of wilds, your chances of getting crests go up.

Edit 1/15/11

Ok, I don't want to step on anyone's toes but, if anyone understands what goes into programming a game like this, you know that it simply doesn't make sense to randomly place crests every hour across a 750 x 750 grid.

The simple way to program is to create a drop rate percentage which applies to any wild which is at full.

Now given this knowldge, there is a truly easy way to crest hunt without worry of accidentally hitting one owned by another or recently attacked by someone else (making it ineligible).

Whenever you abandon a wilderness from your castle, it is immediately restored to full defense, so it is eligible to drop a crest.

You can actually attack the same wild over and over and over again getting crests at a rate between 4 and 20%

Many have actually gotten crests back to back from the same wild this way. I have personally collected as many as 6 crests in an hour from attacking the same wild (only 1:30 away) 30 to 40 times in an hour. Give it a try and see for yourself.


Edit 20th March 2011 by Frankire

I have done 196 consecutive attack-abandon cycles on a single level 9 hill and obtained 37 crests/seals. This is a 18.8% find rate which is much more than the overall observed find rate for level 9 wilds in the crest drop research table (6.89%). Anyone any idea why attack-abandon cycling might increase the find rate? Have the developers increased the drop rate recently? The crests/seals were spread pretty evenly across the whole range of available crests, so attacking a hill only doesn't seem to reduce the spread of cretss available.

EDIT 3/11/2011

Wilds Do Not Have to Have Defenses In Order To Win Crests:

It is a fact, that you do not have to wait for wilds to regenerate their troops or defensesin order to win a crest. On more than one occasion I have won a crest fighting litterally no one. I sent in 1 Sucicide squad, 2 main army, and then 3, 4, 5, etc.... small forces that fight NO ONE, win the battle and win crests, see below.


This wilderness cannot be conquered because you must upgrade your Castle or abandon another wilderness

You were victorious!

The Attackers secured the Wilderness.

Loot

Gold: 0

Food: 0

Wood: 0

Stone: 0

Ore: 0

Sir Percival's Crest: 1

Attackers(ballsballsballs) Knight Combat Skill: 95

Troops Fought Survived
Archer 99526 99526

Defenders(Enemy) Knight Combat Skill: None

No Troops Defended

Now, I do not know what this means for crest hunting in general, I am just passing the info along. I would like to know, if you attack an owned wild (say an ally) can you get crests from that? If you could, that would be great because you fight no one the whole time and if you're already full of wilds, you won't take your friend wild away.

EDIT 14th March 2011 by Frankire

I have done 115 repeated attacks on a level 9 wild with 1000 archers over a 27 minute period and got no crests/seals. This means that the probability of getting a crest/seal is less than 2.57% (95% confidence). The expected frequency of getting a crest/seal in a level 9 wild is 6.15%, so even if an unregenerated wild occasionally produces a crest, it happens a lot less than the frequency in regenerated or partially regenerated wilds.

Edit 1 April 2011 by Ron Lacey

Here is a list of Crests and where I found them. The best result was Level 7 woods for 5th city crests.

Actual crests locations and number found: This is with nearly 200 attacks.


Sir Kay
Lvl 5 Woods - 3
Lvl 6 Lake - 2
Lvl 7 Mtn - 3
Lvl 7 woods - 2

Sir Bor
Lvl 5 Woods - 5
Lvl 6 lake - 4
Lvl 7 Woods - 6

Sir Ector
Lvl 5 Woods - 3
Lvl 6 Plain - 2
Lvl 6 Lake - 1
Lvl 7 Woods - 1, Plain & Mtn - 1 each

Sir Bedivere
Lvl 6 Lake - 1
Lvl 6 Grass - 1
Lvl 7 Wood - 1
Lvl 8 Mtn - 1

Sir Galahad
Lvl 7 Wood - 3

Sir Gawain's
Lvl 7 Wood - 6
Lvl 8 Lake - 1

Sir Percival
Lvl 7 Wood - 3

Sir Lancelot
Lvl 7 Wood - 3
Lvl 8 Wood - 1

The Hard but Fast Way by Xeger:Edit

For you die hards who have been getting aggravated by crest farming, I got ya covered. The easiest way to get your 3rd and 4th city deed, is to select a type of wild, and attack that same type relentlessly. Don't stop until you win a crest. Send out three or four waves consisting of your suicide squad, and your main force. Once you have obtained a crest, wait for the rest to get back in, then attack a new type of wild. But don't be suprised if you attacked six times and did not get one, I can assure you that you will. And, if you time it right, a minute or less between your main attack forces, you could score twice, So get those fingers ready, and that mouse set. To acheive any of this you need to be quick, not super-fast. Just quick.

My best yet is 2 Bevidere's and 1 Kay, the attacks was a set of 4: 2 suicide squads, and two set's of archers, these groups going to two lvl 7 mountains, and two lvl 7 forest. So in this I scored 2/2 in the mountains, and 1/2 with the forest. My gains for crest farming is about 45% using this method.

Remember, Once you get a crest, move on. Also, when it comes to lakes and grasslands, treat them as seperate wilds, grasslands are better for farming than lakes. Happy cresting. &nbsp There is currently no research or evidence showing any certain type of wild has a greater likelyhood of a crest drop than any other type of wild. However, thereis research and data showing attacking a higher level wild has a greater chance of obtaining a crest as the chart below shows.

NOTE: Data for the new level system is in early stages! All percentages were last updated on 9 February 2011.


Crest Drop Per Wilderness
Crest Level 5 Level 6 Level 7 Level 8 Level 9 Level 10
Bor 5.04% 9.20% 5.21% - - -
Ector 3.24% 5.75% 4.31% - - -
Kay 2.88% 1.72% 3.79% 4.08% - -
Bedivere - 1.44% 2.25% 3.15% - -
Gawain - 2.59% 2.70% 4.44% - -
Percival - - 1.13% 1.61% 1.77% -
Galahad - - 0.45% 1.45% 1.13% -
Lancelot - - 0.39% 1.15% 1.43% -

Arthur

- - - 0.60% 0.73% 1.71%
Morgana - - - 0.70% 0.77% 1.71%
Mordred - - - 0.35% 0.81% 1.39%
Stagkings 0.30% 0.64%
Pendragons 0.28% 0.70%
Ladys 0.26% 0.70%


Seal Drop Per Dark ForestEdit
Seal Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Level 4 Level 5 Level 6 Level 7 Level 8 Level 9 Level 10
Merlin 0.29%
Aetherseal 0.04%
Ysbadden
Sidhe 0.083%


It is also possible to buy a Squire's Chest from Shop for 90 Gems, a Knight's Chest for 150 Gems, a Lords Crest for 250 Gems,a Fey's Chest for 350 gems or an Avalon's Chest for 400 gems . If you do spend gems to buy these chests there is not a 100% chance that you will get the right amount of chests to get a new city but, ive noticed if you get the knights chest there is a reasonable chance for you to get the right amount of crests for your 4th city.

The Squire's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Bor's crests, and
  • 1~3 Sir Ector's crests, and
  • 1~3 Sir Kay's crests.

The Knight's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Bevidere's Crests
  • 1~3 Sir Gawain's Crests
  • 1~3 Sir Percival's Crests

The Lord's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Galahad's Crests
  • 1~3 Sir Lancelot's Crests
  • 1~3 King Arthur's Crests

The Fey's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Morgana's Seals
  • 1~3 Mordred's Seals
  • 1~3 Stag King's Seals

The Avalon's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Pendragon's Seals
  • 1~3 Lady Of The Lake's Seals
  • 1~3 Merlin's Seals

Edit 7/24/11 by Jancy

Crests and Where I Got Them


Sir Kay

  • Level 5 Woods
  • Level 6 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Lakes

Sir Bor

  • Level 5 Mountains
  • Level 6 Mountains
  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 8 Woods

Sir Ector

  • Level 5 Mountains
  • Level 6 Mountains
  • Level 6 Grasslands
  • Level 7Woods
  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Lakes

Sir Bedivere

  • Level 6 Mountain
  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Lakes
  • Level 8 Mountain

Sir Gawain

  • Level 6 Hills
  • Level 7 Hills
  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Lakes

Sir Galahad

  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Plain

Sir Percival

  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes
  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes
  • Level 8 Mountain

Sir Lancelot

  • Level 7 Woods
  • Level 7 Lakes

Arthur's Seal

  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes
  • Level 8 Grassland

Mordred's Seal

  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes

Morgana's Seal

  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes

Stag King's Seal

  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes

Pendragon

  • Level 9 Grassland

Lady of the Lake's Seal

  • Level 8 Woods
  • Level 8 Lakes

LoyaltyEdit

You can spend unused crest on your knights to get higher loyalty from them. In Knight Hall there is a button called "Reward". Click that button and choose "Crests". In the next picture you can choose which crest you want to use on that knight. Of course, since the loyalty has not come to any use yet, spending your crest on your knights' loyalty may not be a good idea, some crests are useful for crafting, whereas gold can be used and is great surplus in the game. Also, although not yet fully confirmed, it has been observed that increasing a knight's loyalty early on in the knight's skill development is the best time to use your surplus crests. Higher loyalty appears to increase EXP gain rate. edit: Developers stated in the forums that loyalty does absolutely nothing in the game. It will not increase experience gain rate.[dubious ]

StatisticsEdit

Crest statistics.png
GreenmanofwowAdded by Greenmanofwow
For Research on Crest Drop: Crest Drop Research

Based on record keeping from the Tournament of Crests and collecting crests for a third city. I think these are reasonable assumptions:

  • Odds of dropping any crest from a level 7 wilderness = 1/20
  • Bor's crest is twice as likely to drop as Ector's crest
  • Ector's crest is twice as likely to drop as Kay's crest
  • Therefore, when a crest drops: 4/7 will be Bor's, 2/7 will be Ector's, and 1/7 will be Kay's.

To get the Third City Deed, you need to collect 4 Bor's, 2 Ector's and 1 Kay's crest. We can calculate the odds of finding at least that many crests in a given number of level 7 wildernesses with a little programming. The results are shown in this graph (click it to view full size).

On average, players will need to farm about 200 level-7 wilderness tiles to collect the crests needed to build a third city. As the graph shows, it will take almost twice that for 10% of the players. That is a lot of farming, and a lot of troops lost to the 150 traps on each of those tiles. Collecting crests is neither quick nor easy.

Note that these results are based entirely on level-7 wilderness farming. How the odds change for different levels of wildernesses is not known.

As of the November 22nd update King Arthur's Crests , Morgana's Seals and Mordred's Seals are now dropping in level 8-10 wilds.

As of March 2011 update Stag King Seal's, Pendragon Seal's and Lady Of The Lake Seal's are now dropping in level 8 -10 wilds.


Animal Hides ~Lord Muttly


Animal Hides are found in the dark forests. Theres a good chance of them dropping in level 6-10. Level 1-5 however take a while to get.

Name: Lord Muttly -

Level: 55 -

DF lvl: Level 1-5

Attks: 350-1000 daily

AniH: 15

ReferencesEdit

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  • with the thron room did the crest and seal rate drop?

    • Austin, I dont know about other players...but since they added the throne room and its items I have only gotten a TOTAL of 3 or 4 crests...and I have sent out over 5000 hits on wilds. That, to me says rate drop.

  • R u able to get Merlin Seals from cresting or is it only from DFing? And also the best place to get them cause I been looing for a week in DFs 1-4 and got nothing.

     Thanks in advance!!!
    
    by Baja2476
  • I agree with the comment below. I have obtained many crests and in my last 2 x1 hour Cresting got 12 in one including a Pendragon and a Lady of the Lake Seal. In the other 5 including a Lady of the Lake Seal. Also obtained a week or so ago a Sidhe Seal from a lvl 1 DF. The 1st hour Crest was on a lvl 8 Woods the 2nd Hour was a lvl 8 Hills. I very occasionally get a report saying no crests at all, i'd say approx. 1 in 10's worth of 1 hour Cresting. I do not buy anything on this game and my alliance members say i'm lucky. That may be the case reading some of the posts on here. I do not however get Animal Hides! So i'm not as lucky as they may think.

    by KM60
  • it is possible to get Lady of the Lake seals and Pendragons when hitting level 8 wilds... i dont have an exact drop percentage for you, but i know that i got 3 Ladys and 2 Pendragons from roughly 400 level 8 wild hits

  • I have not hit nearly as many as some ppl have mentioned here and have gained my 5 cities in very quick succession by hitting lvl 7 woods the same one to 4th deed and a lvl 8 wood for 5th deed and have many seals from this. 90+ Crests i do not need apart from the knight loyalty thing. Have Pendragon seals from hitting one lvl 8 wood + others.

    by KM60
  • where can i get seals for the 8th city? estimated hits before i can find the seals? i've been hitting dark forest levels 2 to 6 and found nothing except losing armies...

    thx

    by Glyndrw
  • I found a Sidhe Seal in the Dark Forests. Anyone know what it is for??? I have no clue, it is not for cities or for crafting. IDK any ideas?

  • Can anyone tell me how many cavalry / heavy cavalry i will need for level 6 and 7 wilderness so i can get crest thanks

  • Ok look. there is no easy way to get them. i have a friend who works with the guys at kabam. it works like this: the level of the wild only matters for one reason, the total number of types of crests/seals that are available. for example a level 5 wild will only carry crests for your third and fourth cities but a level 8 wild has EVERY crest/seal type. the crests/seal work on a rotation que. if you need a bors crest you wouldnt want to hit a level 8 but more than likely a level 5. since level 5 wilds only carry crests for your earlier cities the que is shorter to reach them. if you need 4 of one type 3 of the next and 2 of the last then that is the way the 'que' for crests in that level wild work. just remember that there are literally thousends of other people on your domain cresting at the same time as you. the que's work off the total number of hits on a certain level wild. now back to the level five if you just got a bor's then because there are more of those needed than any other type the chances of you getting one next in the que are higher, but because of all the other participating playeers cresting for themsleves you may be the 99th person to hit then the 100th person gets the crest. this is how you can crest for days with out recieving then crest/seal you want, i know this is slightly complicated to understand but if you want all your cities get your fletching up and hit 8's they carry every crest for all 7 cities. if you have any questions send me a message at: squandered_youth@hotmail.com i am not a know all helper but if you have questions that i can help you with i willl try thx!

  • ok on that average 200 lvl 7 wilds thing up above is that 200 different wilds or can u attack a set of certain ones a day?

    • I think that may mean waves/rounds as i'm not sure you need to hit different wilds at all to get your crests, at least not 200!! You may switch or use more than one city on a different type of wild. There is no need to keep switching imo as they drop at some time anyhow.

  • where can i find Arthur crest i need 4of them trying form a week food none please help.

  • got 4 mordreds but 0 morganas :(

  • attacked a lvl 10 grassland constantly for an 2 hours for morganas and mordreds seals... nek minit i get 3 pendragons and 2 lady of the lakes and a stag kings

  • just to let everyone know to hit a lvl 10 wild with no losses send this

    wave 1 1999 mm 1cat wave 2 105k cats

    i have been doing this for about 3 weeks to test it out and i haven't lost anything yet HOWEVER i also have lvl 11 fletching so i don't know if it will work with lower lvl fletching and also you will lose the first wave as you should know

  • Lieu de Bataille Forêt Obscure Niv.1 (242,682) Nov 26, 09:40 PM Rapport N° : 30932399

    Vous avez été victorieux!

       Or1,150
       Nourriture0
       Bois0
       Pierre0
       Minerai0
       Pierre d'Ether1,000
       Sceau de Merlin1
    

    Les Archer ont gagné haut la main contre les Vagabond de Din Retour au rapport Attaquants (lpcxx) - (247,686) Gagnant

       Habileté du Chevalier au Combat: 55
    

    Troupes Battu A survécu Milicien 1 0 Archer 20,000 20,000 Défenseurs (Ennemi)

       Habileté du Chevalier au Combat: None
    

    Troupes Battu A survécu Vagabond de Din 1,000 0

  • WILDS DROP RANDOM CRESTS THATS A FACT HIGHER WILDS DROP HIGHER CREST BUT THERE STILL RANDOM SO DNT BELIVE ALL THE BULL SHIT ABOUT THIS WILD IS BETTER A DROPPIND A CERTIN CREST COZ ITS NOT THEY ARE RANDOM I HAVE ALL MY 7 CITYS AND 5TH IN A NEW DOMAIN AND I HAVE ALL WAYS FOUUND MY CRESTS BY RANDOM HITS HIT THE SAME WILID AGAIN AND AGAIN THEY WILL DROP ABOUT 5 IN EVERY HUNDRED HITS BUT THEN IT MYT NOT DROP FOR ANOTHER 200 HIT SO WEN U HAVE HAD A FEW CREST OUT OF IT CHANGE AND COME BK TO THAT WILD IN FEW HOURS GIVE IT CHANCE TO REGENERATE

    • thnx u for the advice below i am implementing that method today and hoping it works been cresting for about two weeks thnx u again

      brokenbard93
      
  • where am I most likely to find ector crests? ive followed this wiki but it hasn't yielded results

    • pick a level 6 or 7 woods and hit the same 1 constantly it will drop soon hit it loads mate over 100 times and at leat 5 crest will fall

  • ANYONE AFTER MERLINS SEAL THEY ARE NOW IN DF

  • Hey I'm looking to start my new 8th city! I hope anyway.....can anyone out there help me out with some details on how or where to find these new seals? Any information at all will be greatly appreciated! I've heard that one of the seals MUST be bought in the shop......not sure if that is true......but if so then it defeats the purpose of even having the other two seals obtainable. I just do not want to go hunting for these seals if it's not possible for all of them to be found.

    • It looks like you have to find seals in the dfs would be the hard way. The easy way would be to find enough sidhe seals and then craft the other seals.

    • Sidhe's are not used for crafting.... I have my Level 10 Spire and a Sidhe seal..... plus at least one of all other seals

  • add to this if you find lvl 7 to 10 mountans as three in a row acroos down or diagonally that area is a crest hot spot these wilds drop more often than those spread out from them as the three mountains are marker points for the written programme to space out the awards per wild . theres the mathamatical marker as you find in all games this is camelots one traced through a software we keep to ourselves ty n gd luck

  • you can get them in lvl 8 mountain and lvl 9 woods for seal lake, pendragon and stag but a morgana u can find it in lvl 8 mountain

  • where can i find a galahad

  • i need 1 stags and 2 morganas where are theyyyyyyyyyy

  • WHERE IS SIR LANCELOT!?!?! :(

  • I hear that peepsare getting merlins seal which are for 8th city, any one know which wilds and wot levels please?

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